
Mark Freed & Gary Ford on Bern’s Speak Easy Podcast
What does it really mean to create an inclusive workplace?
We’re excited to share that our co-founders, Mark Freed and Gary Ford, recently joined Bern’s Speak Easy podcast – now live – to explore one of the most important (and often overlooked) drivers of real cultural change: engaging men in inclusion.
In this episode, Mark and Gary unpack what it really takes to move beyond good intentions and make inclusion part of everyday workplace behaviour.
“Inclusion isn’t about what we say—it’s about what we do, every single day.”
They explore parenthood and the challenges for women from generation to generation, how to bring men into the ‘inclusion’ conversation, and where the drive to be more inclusive can stem from.
This conversation gets to the heart of a challenge many organisations are facing right now: despite increased focus, investment and awareness, inclusion often isn’t translating into meaningful, lasting change.
📺 Watch the Episode Now on YouTube here